Elven defence league?!
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some of the most famous elves in arabel have been evil..though rare
and in several cases some of the evil elves were not that way at the start
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Where does that come from?
Not sure which source, but one of these:
Lords of Darkness
Races of Faerune
Races of the Wild
Evermeet (Novel)
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Evil elves… It ircs me to no end.
There are, if memory serves, only three deities of the entire pantheon of the elves that ALLOW evil followers. They do not have any themselves.
Elves are magical beings, as they are the most seen examples of fey creatures. An elf is as magical as a freaking Nymph or Pixie.
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Any elf can worship any of the Seldarine despite what their alignment is (Unless you are a cleric). It's not like clerics are casting detect alignment on all their followers to ensure there aren't any black sheep.
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@O'louth:
Elves are magical beings, as they are the most seen examples of fey creatures. An elf is as magical as a freaking Nymph or Pixie.
Historically, maybe. But while an elf may be able to learn great magic and all that, nymphs are born being able to teleport, gnomes are born being able to cast small spells, elves are born with the innate talent of zilch. So in terms of raw magical ability, they're not quite nymphs.
Secondly, a typical nymph is chaotic good, yet the module itself has crazy homicidal ones. If a nymph can become crazy and homicidal, so can an elf.
Thirdly, even if there was no one and two, they are indeed magical creatures. "Magical creature" does not necessarily mean it's got a certain alignment built into its genetic structure. Creatures with Good in their genetic makeup have the [Good] subtype. It's what it's there for.
They're elves, not angels. They've got a history of being good and some distant good-aligned ancestors, so they tend towards being nice people, but they don't have tangible liquid Good running through their veins. In the case of angels, yes, they're Good like a piece of wire is Copper. In the case of Elves, not so much. -
Alignment of individual elves has nothing to do with the alignment of the Seldarine. You are forgetting Forgotten Realms are largely polytheistic and it is perfectly common for good-aligned characters to pray to evil deities, for example.
Evil elves are also perfectly common and canon. The highest tiers of Evermeet nobility are more evil than good. All the Eldreth Veluuthra is evil. And these are but the two most prominent sun elven groups/strata. The history offers more examples such as the nations of Aryvandaar and Ilythiir.
It's more about elves being played mostly by the cuddly wuddly emo players (which reflects on the elven PCs' alignments) than anything else that gives the impression of elves being inherently good-aligned.
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@O'louth:
Evil elves… It ircs me to no end.
There are, if memory serves, only three deities of the entire pantheon of the elves that ALLOW evil followers. They do not have any themselves.
Elves are magical beings, as they are the most seen examples of fey creatures. An elf is as magical as a freaking Nymph or Pixie.
that is true but it does not take into concideration events molding the characters future allignment..as it had with my elf, my elf has been on both sides of the spectrum, though always chaotic
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In my experience, most players are evil elves at heart.
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It seems that all is now well with the world, posters of future comings, The death of all elves is imminent.
You elves better use up what bath time you have left.
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And corrupt the bath waters? I foresee mutated elves emerging from those waters.
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I'm tempted to play an Elf.
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@Broken:
I'm tempted to play an Elf.
I will prepare the oils.
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Try to outlive the last elf group. It went a whole week I think.
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and don't full kill 10-20 people like the one before it.
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@O'louth:
Evil elves… It ircs me to no end.
There are, if memory serves, only three deities of the entire pantheon of the elves that ALLOW evil followers. They do not have any themselves.
Elves are magical beings, as they are the most seen examples of fey creatures. An elf is as magical as a freaking Nymph or Pixie.
Eldreth Veluuthra.
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Big difference between EV and Elves who worship Malar or Velsharoon.
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@Broken:
Big difference between EV and Elves who worship Malar or Velsharoon.
Thank you!
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Try to outlive the last elf group. It went a whole week I think.
I had high hopes for that group during that week too! Shame.
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If you do play an elf, try and use appropriate descriptions like "lithe" and "buxom" for the ladies, and "pansy-like" for males. It adds to immersion.