Sarah Palin not running for president?
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Oh yeah.
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Omg, close this thread, it stopped being good after first post.
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Omg, close this thread, it stopped being good after first post.
Haha this is why the conservative argument is always superior, because when conservatives back their arguments with facts and talk all so politely, socialists always try and shut down the argument because even they know deep down they can never win it. Lol.
Conservative for the win!
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I mean, I get why the rich hate Obama's policies, its the rest of you that baffle me.
"Obama concedes that cutting the capital gains tax actually increased revenues, but says that he’d raise it anyway for the sake of “fairness.â€
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Official Monster Raving Looney Party, imho. Now stfu and lock, rite?
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Now if only Michele Bachman would do the same…
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Haha this is why the conservative argument is always superior, because when conservatives back their arguments with facts and talk all so politely, socialists always try and shut down the argument because even they know deep down they can never win it. Lol.
Conservative for the win!
Yes, it is hard to argue against the daily mail =(
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Now if only Michele Bachman would do the same…
I want Michel Bachman to run with Ike Turner as long as I could work the word "overdrive" into their campaign slogan. I'd wear a button that says: Bachman-Turner Overdrive, 2012.
I think I'm too young and non-Canadian to get my own reference to BTO.
Anyway this is silly, don't we have DMs anymore to curtail this behavior or are they all too busy playing some stupid game? There's a place for this stuff, it's called everywhere else on the interwebs besides the CoA boards.
I think the accounting reporting changes of the federal government in 2009 and the fact that reporting debt as just a number rather than vs. GDP or other indicator is silly – has as great an effect on any of the charts posted here than anything discussed about said charts has.
Also, most discussion around how much tax the rich pay vs. the middle and low classes is usually only awe inspiring when you only look at straight federal income tax and not what is know as "total tax". When you look at total tax then everybody pays what a normal person might think they should. I.e. the top 1% takes in 21% of all the money made and pays 23% of all the taxes. Tax burden on those "below the middle" pay less tax by percentage than they make in income, but you can't really afford a 22% tax bracket if you make 8% above the poverty line.
I've got 11 pages of evaluation of Sarbanes-Oxley and its effect on the free market if anyone wants to read it. Should I post it here, or just paste it into IRC?
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B-Rock is really interested in that kind of stuff, you could PM it to him
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It'd be helpful if most of what you said here was actually true and presented in context.
Look at the economy over the last 25 years, since the recover in the early nineties and the picture makes more sense.
For starters, you'ld catch on that both parties are to blame because they answer to executives and financiers, rather than blindly blaming one party or politician.
It would also be helpfull if you pointed out what parts you belive are untrue?
I don't dispute both parties have blame to share or that lobby groups have corrupted the system. Many on the right would accept Clinton-esk taxation rates if there was Gingrich-esk spending restraints to go with them.
Cutting spending and paying down debt has prevented much of the same problems in Canada. No banks went bust and we never had to bailout Baystreet. Thanks to a well regulated banking and investment market.
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I mean, I get why the rich hate Obama's policies, its the rest of you that baffle me.
"Obama concedes that cutting the capital gains tax actually increased revenues, but says that he’d raise it anyway for the sake of “fairness.â€
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It'd be helpful if most of what you said here was actually true and presented in context.
Look at the economy over the last 25 years, since the recover in the early nineties and the picture makes more sense.
For starters, you'ld catch on that both parties are to blame because they answer to executives and financiers, rather than blindly blaming one party or politician.
It would also be helpfull if you pointed out what parts you belive are untrue?
I don't dispute both parties have blame to share or that lobby groups have corrupted the system. Many on the right would accept Clinton-esk taxation rates if there was Gingrich-esk spending restraints to go with them.
Cutting spending and paying down debt has prevented much of the same problems in Canada. No banks went bust and we never had to bailout Baystreet. Thanks to a well regulated banking and investment market.
I think you have a really competent Conservative Party in Canada, it is talked about in a very positive way among grass root conservatives in the UK.
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As a final point before I go to bed, I think the inherent negative point of socialism, is its hostility to individualism and hostility to the liberties of the individual. I think that socialism, or liberalism as it tends to be called (and wrongly) in the states in practice will always harm freedom, by at least as the consequences of statism, if not as goal of a statist party.
The most influential book, I have read, and the one which most influenced Thatcher, was one called the Road to Serfdom, by a man named Hayek. I would strongly recommend buying it to anyone who has an interest in politics, or has an interest in classical (English and right wing version) liberalism.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0415 ... &pf_rd_t=1
Although it is possible to get a condensed and free version through this link:
http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/fil ... k43pdf.pdf
Spartan
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I think you have a really competent Conservative Party in Canada, it is talked about in a very positive way among grass root conservatives in the UK.
Bear in mind that the Conseratives had a minority during this period. It was only the last election that they won a firm majority. The voters also seemed to view the conservative policy's positively.
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I think you have a really competent Conservative Party in Canada, it is talked about in a very positive way among grass root conservatives in the UK.
Bear in mind that the Conseratives had a minority during this period. It was only the last election that they won a firm majority. The voters also seemed to view the conservative policy's positively.
Yeah the new Conservative Majority and the style of Conservatism, being what has caught the attention of British Conservatives. It is a style, from what I have heard of, that is confident of its conservatism and doesn't try and combine conservatism with the big state politics of socialism. It is more akin to Thatcher or Regan, than say McCain or Bush, from what has been said in the English Conservative Blogosphere.
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Conservative "Majority," you mean. 36% percent of the vote shouldn't equal 100% of the power.
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Conservative "Majority," you mean. 36% percent of the vote shouldn't equal 100% of the power.
That's one of the joys of a four party system. Tonites Ontario provincial election will see a Liberal governmet with about 37%, PCs 35%, NDP 23% Greens Meh % of the popular vote. (not sure yet if it's a majority, Libs need 54 seats and currently have 53).
Following the Spanish and Greek economic model has cost the Liberals alot of seats.
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We have public health care in Australia. It's pretty good. I don't know why you wouldn't want it, really.
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Can we get an image of deadlock doing a happy dance? He once again sucessfully trolled the whole server.
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The problem I have with this thread is Spartan's posts are just waaaaay to long! :lol: