@Deadlock:
hi wat is global warming? can we stop it with a sonic rainboom??
Nothing to worry about Deadlock. I think a sonic rainboom will almost certainly fix it, as a fictional solution, is all that is needed to deal with a fictional problem! : D
In reply to Entropy Mu:
Firstly the general point that ice levels are receding was only correct to a few years ago, they ice caps did shrink, then enlarged again, the latter of the related points being the pertinent one and the one often ignored by 'so called' climate research scientists.
While the Earth was heating up, for a few decades, it has been cooling for the last ten years. This is despite that man made greenhouse gases have been on the increase into the atmosphere. In particular China and India have been industrialising at break neck speed.
Therefore if the hypothesis that: Releasing greenhouse increased the Earth's temperature was correct and so therefore fact, the Earth should not only have continued to heat up, but the rate of its heat up should also have increased.
In Great Britain, last Winter we should have boiled, we had on the record one of the coldest winters of the last few decades. This is something all Britis could see with their own two eyes, as being true. It is wrong headed to suggest that the Earth is getting warmer and we are on our way to environmental Armageddon when people can see for themselves, it is getting colder.
With regards to the scientific community and 98% of climate scientists agreeing that global warming is occurring (ok that was someone else) this is also entirely inaccurate.
With climategate one of the most startling revelations, was how far East Anglia University had gone in repressing dissenting views, even in the face of scientific fact. This does mean that all along, there was plenty of scientists that did contest the state of climate research and plenty of dissent. What was disgraceful and what very much did come to light, was how far these pseudo-scientists at East Anglia had gone in suppressing the argument.
Real science means starting with an hypothesis, testing an hypothesis through experimentation and when an hypothesis is shown to be consistently true, only then does it become fact. Instead what actually happened was when the East Anglia University academics found themselves to be incorrect in their original hypothesis, was that they covered it up.
That they covered it up isn't part of some conspiracy theory or anything colourful, I think their reasons, are a lot more basic, those of self preservation.
Lets be frank, not many people at all, working at a academic institution, which is dependent on the state for grants, will turn around to the state and say 'Hi guys, sorry seems we were wrong all along about this global warming business, the Earth is now cooling, we don't need any grants or our salaries paying.'
Turkeys do not vote for Christmas, academics who depend on the belief of the state that global warming is real for their livelihoods, will not try and change the states mind and make themselves unemployed.
What made the CLimategate incident all the more important, was that East Anglia University provided information used all across the world, and by climate institutions and governments everywhere.
Therefore when their research was discredited and shown to be false, it also fatally discredited the man made global warming myth.
Finally socialism has never been shown 'in practice' to benefit everyone and society as a whole. Communism is really socialism taken to its full conclusion and communism has also been shown to be the most evil and murderous ideology ever imagined, with a total death count, somewhere in the region of 100 million souls, and that is of other communists.
I would happily recommend to any left winger they read 1984 or Animal Farm by George Orwell, a former communist, to understand the realities of socialism taken to its conclusions.
Even with so called democratic socialism, when it is implemented it always ends in a nation going broke and civil rights being severely trampled upon. In the UK, as I am sure is the case in other nations, it is the left which so often leads the censorship brigade as it does try and control society.
Government should only ever exist to lead society and guide society and not be a master over society.
Spartan