if I recall correctly, players can relevel 1 time per PC using hte crafting menu. It drops you to 1 and get you back to 4. No DM required. But yeah, you get back to 4.

@zool said in Jim and Tenebris: Rank 3 Druids:

with a plague and removing living beings (that are also sentient...)

people get in the way of balance anyway >_>

as long as they keep the faction in mind, looks like they have been working that aspect.

End goal for druids is to keep things balanced according to nature, not "normal" according to the commoners/nobles/royalties.
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Big cities can't get too big and evil druid would want to see them destroyed. Goody druids would seek to incorporate nature in them more. Druids in general, good, neutral or bad, would want major wizard (maybe even arcanists in general) factions destroyed or at the very least, controlled, because most of the trouble comes from them when it comes to aberrations, outsiders and undead.

Anyway, that is another debate.

Multitude was a talonite druid group. They tried to destroy Arabel. What's Jim and Tenebris' druidic/wildwalker/murrain point of view?

Zool makes a good point.

The spider grove and them working for the spider spirit is great and I say yes to that part. But we need to know if they get to become Great Druid (as a rank 3 in the wildwalker faction) or they get the grove as a reward for being awesome druid/murrain? If they are pushing the faction goals, the good, they get promoted, if not, reward them differently for being awesome.

@spiffymeister said in Jim and Tenebris: Rank 3 Druids:

There is literally zero faction agenda beyond 'keep the balance' and some other tedious dumb boring shit.

uuuh. We clearly do not see the faction the same way.

• Reign in the Helmlands and stop it from spreading
• Temper the influence of the Cities on nature
• Keep the Balance (which means hunt down everything undead, aberrant or outsider, and just there, there is a ton to do)
• Spread the influence of the Wildwalkers (we're the expert, consult us for stuff you want to do outside the city!)
• Individual NPC goals https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/45746/faction-wild-walkers/2

Them seem to be doing mostly Murrain stuff, but poison and plague is part of nature.

Maybe ask the players if they are a bit lost as to what to do on the Wildlwalker side of things?
Jim seems to be doing well with the Poison and Plague aspect of nature.
No clue what Tenebris is up to druid wise.

They can't be the great druid of the same grove though, right? Jim get the Webbed Maze and Tenebris the Hullack one?

Do these guys know about the rotten tree (oak?) that is technically in the Hullack? (is it even in an area??) Tenebris could get a hold of that and take over the Hullack and rally up the lycans in the forest.

maybe make an announcement that subraces need full app again? Just so people know and don't learn about it out of the blue?

I do not see them IG or hear much about them at all. I only heard a few things they did with the Murrains. So, not voting since I have no clue what they have been up to.
What have they done for the Wildwalkers? Just curious to know.

6 in, I take it approved?

Application characters should be something taken seriously. Even if its for the minor subraces. Its not made for throw away characters that are made to be ridiculous.

If he wants to take this serious, his character can be funny, irresponsible, chaotic, doing all she can to get away from the strange happenings around her or try to be super friendly to throw suspicions off her. But this isn't a joke.

He can use the normal races to make a joke PC all he wants.

Perhaps an admin could make it clear and then we can revise the vote?

@crazyzleric said in Crafting Rehaul or bust:

So I went to make wands using the crafting feat to make the task easier, I hit the cast button and it wants 1550 gold!

That's the price for a 25 charges wand. Its about right. Give you 62 gold per charges. Which is a lot cheaper than potions at the shop. Check the link Echo gave above for the various chat commands that come with the wand crafting feat. You can chance the number of charges and the caster level (when it applies)

We'd need some more details to see if it is worthy of an aasimar, yeah. What will make it more than a dwarf with glowy eyes.

The Ilmateri angle works well with the aasimar side. Its not a god you'd see a dwarf follow much. Or a dwarf seeking to help any and all that suffer.

Could ask the player for more details though.