I wanted to stay out of this, I did, but with the post that captain has made (one you could use to fertilize a few good fields with), I cant keep being Switzerland.
~ comment about shoddy documentation on the haks was translated to "gmork did shoddy work on the haks". Gmork got mad and went off on Echo of all people, not only the nicest person on the server but the person who always stuck up for our aussie comrades, and we all felt that trust was broken again.
I was not mad, I was disappointed and frustrated that people who do not understand what or how a 'modular hak' is were commenting on it often about how shoddy the work was instead of coming to speak with me openly about it.
I never 'went off' at Echo but I was very irritated that, after hearing this going on since I left she comes to ask for help. Here is the whole conversation.
Echo - Last Monday at 10:13 PM
I have a question about haks (again) .. the AraDev module only has a_haks and q_haks and doesnt use any c_haks; does that mean you put all the c_hak stuff into the a_hak stuff?
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:40 PM
Going to be blunt here but not sure why I'm getting asked these questions when apparently my work is so shoddy. Surely it would be better to start from scratch and do some quality work. Of course the people who are saying these things have no idea about haks or what they are talking about which is evident in what is being said.
Echo - Last Monday at 10:41 PM
Look hon, I'm just trying to figure out what this stuff does
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:41 PM
Did you expect a different response?
Echo - Last Monday at 10:42 PM
Considering I've never said what you did was "shoddy" only that I dont know how it works? a
and considering I've never been anything but nice to you?
Yes, I suppose I did expect a different response
a simple "yes I put all the c into a" would've been sufficient
I'll find a way to figure it out myself, I guess
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:44 PM
Yeah. But Echo I saw us as friends and when I see no one saying shit to moloch and letting him say what he wants and not being able to defend myself it is upsetting. I pride myself on my work and spent months and months doing these haks for coa
Echo - Last Monday at 10:44 PM
I dont know if it's shoddy because I dunno wtf it does
and I -have- defended you
as recently as last night
but I guess Sandman didnt tell you that part
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:47 PM
Not just him I have heard things from. But I'm not going to argue about it, if you want to learn about haks download the custom content guide that is where I started learning it all 15 years ago.
Echo - Last Monday at 10:48 PM
"yes I put all the c into a" would've been sufficient, but thanks anyway.
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:48 PM
Echo - Last Monday at 10:49 PM
There is no cause for you to be a dick to me, Gmork, after all the times I -have- defended you and pushed for you and Tinker to be back on the team
Gmork - Last Monday at 10:49 PM
Echo - Last Monday at 10:49 PM
Been nice knowing ya
And that is it. My definition of going off at some might be different than others, but this is not hostile or an attack or vindictive.
As for broken trust? Sandman spoke to an ex-DM about something that was said about them. We have all (dm's that is) spoken openly to ex-DM's about things in the game and on the forums. That is not breaking trust or cause for an immediate dismissal from the team.
We had a DM give out private information on several DM's to players (now that is breaking trust in a huge way) and all they got was a slap on the wrist after a 4 day discussion.
When I left, I wanted to stay on good terms with the server and left my offer for help with custom content but no one came to ask me about them or even come and tell me to my face they can't understand it and the work was shoddy. I would have explained it. Happily. Things were done to accommodate certain requests from the team; but I will not go into it further.
Anyway, that's it. Said all I need and i want you all to know that this post is not made in anger or with malicious intent.