This is literally the best thing I've seen in regards to this server since I've been here.

@gruffman
It still at it's core functions the same as base nwn. Custom stuff still requires haks.

My EE is downloaded and ready to go whenever.

In regards to Perma-death events: I love them and want more so long as the deaths are for RP and not just "DM spawned 20 Balors on my head and killed me with no chance on my end" (not saying you guys would). Personally that is the kind of tense conflict I love.

I never noticed them giving xp anytime I saw one killed it did not give an xp notification. But I was also fighting and trying not to die like I tend to do so it is possible every time I looked it was us killing a respawned one.

@Mr-Moloch

A quest that could be looked into specifically is the frost giant quest.

Ran this the other day with a group on my level 7 character. Afterwards it was unanimously decided that the quest simply isn't worth it.

It was a long and tough quest in that it cost a lot of consumables to get through but gave crap for xp, gold and loot. Maybe we got unlucky on the loot side of the things but the stuff that did drop was subpar compared to other higher level tough quests.

XP wise doing a full clear I got about 700xp including the turn in xp on a level 7 character. The quest is full of fairly tough Undead dwarves that continually respawn and give no xp or loot (which makes sense considering they keep getting back up). There was a lot of them and they took a lot of time and healing to get through for nothing in return. As well as being a constant danger of getting back up in our back line while our frontline is fighting another large swarm of enemies.

Gold wise there was almost none from the loot or the turn in and it didn't come close to the amount of potions and healing wands that had to be used to get through it. We got about 400gp each at the end and most of us spent easily over 1k gold or more in potions and csw wands.

Loot wise there is multiple areas with large spawns and yet only one set of loot at the very end after killing the boss. Lots of side paths with enemies but no treasure to be found down any such paths. The number of actual items we got was very small, I've done much faster and easier quests that ended up with way more and (on some of them) way better loot. Maybe we got unlucky with the actual items themselves but it was very lackluster.

This help?

I've also seen mechanically strong players/characters get the ease/thrown fight treatment and weaker or lower level characters get absolutely slaughtered by opponents that are well beyond their ability to fight.

Balancing things on the fly is very hard to do in the nwn environment. It's not like pen and paper where things flow slowly and a DM can tweak rolls and stats to make things balanced and fun. Even more so when the DMs don't know the capabilities of the character in question.

As I said I love the arena. Only suggestion I have is to maybe have a more streamlined setup of the difficulty of the tiers, and only scale that some to the power of the characters that are fighting. Watching a tier 2 item fight be more difficult than a tier 3 fight doesn't seem right and definitely adds to the feeling of "I shouldn't bother because I'm not strong enough."

@mr-moloch said in Thayan Arena:

@vagabond3103 said in Thayan Arena:

Sometimes the fights feel artificially scaled, heal-pot saves or sometimes just scaling something beyond the mechanics of a player - I'm not faulting Spiffy here, fuck me I couldn't do better PvP'ing for hours at a time, but not everyone can beat the boss, and many feel its a case of rich get richer, adding alternate ways to win, or alternate hooks to losing seems more interactive and fun other than "lol 40% deduction of current exp thank you".

So its a sense of "you have to keep up with the Jonses, but the odds are unpredictable and stacked in favor of the 'haves' rather 'fair'?

Is that the heart of the problem?

I will say I've been involved in two arenas so far. Both times I died in a matter of seconds which is not an exaggeration. I've also seen some amazingly entertaining fights (Ib and Merrick vs the goblins for example) and I've also seen ones that were just "spam heal and stone skin pots until I win".

That said I really enjoy the arenas and find them fun to watch even if I'm not mechanically strong enough myself to win. I would be sad to see them go away. It does seem to favor strong builds and big groups though.

Top. Men.

// should be good around that time any day aside from Thursday. Have a dr appointment that afternoon.

That times works for me!

Dorf!