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    How coa became dependent on haks

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    • Zolm
      Zolm last edited by

      gents I thought coa's pride was it's independency from haks, now you need haks to log in, sounds familiar to something we discussed earlier that shouldn't happen. Just wish to hear your thoughts on this.

      ~S

      Only CoA player whose Mom is cooler than he is.

      • Spiffyhas

      And damn right she is!

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        Harsil last edited by

        To me seems good enough.

        NWN isn't getting any new players. Those who are new to it are friends to those who alredy play.

        And those who play NWN will be used to download haks to check a server. Why not?

        "Paper is dead without words
        Ink idle without a poem
        All the world dead without stories
        Without love and disarming beauty"

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        • AronFF
          AronFF last edited by

          and you don't actually need the haks to log in. "Don't spread false information!" was my first thought when I saw the title.

          If some poor English shows up in this post: and you're an English teacher, language-patriot or simply kind; please correct me. Thanks.

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          • V-Rage
            V-Rage last edited by

            The haks are fairly small as well.

            Its not like huge bloated messes like the CEP.

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            • D
              Direfish last edited by

              We had this discussion previously and the majority was in favour of haks. They're not going away so probably no point in discussing it further.

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              • Man in the Mist
                Man in the Mist Storyteller [DM] last edited by

                And it looks -amazing-.

                You can still log in without them. They're super easy to download thanks to the magical wonder that is the City of Arabel launcher.

                I think you've just been misinformed.

                I had visions, I was in them;
                I was looking into the mirror,
                to see a little bit clearer,
                the rottenness and evil in me.

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                  Ungoliant last edited by

                  I think the fact that there's no server list anymore makes a huge difference to the discussion. No one's going to casually hop in anymore without reading up on it a little bit. :)

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                  • Donkeypuffy
                    Donkeypuffy last edited by

                    As a new player or character (can't remember which!) you wont need the haks to start and be introduced to the server, which is good. But once you have set up the haks already, with every new update you will need to get the new haks before logging in. Which is fine if you ask me, it makes sure everyone is on the same page and that no risk of anyone being out of date with old characters.

                    So, yeah as most said there is no real point into this thread to be frank. This is now a soft hak server. That certainly wont change as, as far as I know, everyone loves the beauty the haks has brought into the server. So, I suggest for next time, that you take some time to research and look into the matter before writing a not very meaningful post if the answer is already in the FAQ about haks. :)

                    @Elegy:

                    > Wish I could've seen this – I just got to read in IRC where it was along the tune of,
                    > "Puffy's new character she just made threw herself off a cliff and really screwed some things up..."

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                    • S
                      SquidT last edited by

                      As someone totally new (well i played a little about 5 years ago) it took me under 10 mins to get sorted to play with all the Hacks enabled. I think COA looks all the better for it too.

                      As an aside, can anyone recommend other Haks to make it even better?

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                      • DiaboSatan
                        DiaboSatan last edited by

                        Haks are not mandatory. You can log in and play without them.

                        City of Arabel biggest fan.

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                        • Darlene Te'len
                          Darlene Te'len last edited by

                          i was not able to log in without the haks, if someone was able to get in without any haks i would love to know how they managed it when i could not, on two separate occasions, but that being said, once i got the haks, things did look a lot better

                          but that is not important, the main reason haks are needed now is we have a closed community, with the demise of gamespy we will no longer get casual players coming in, it will only be by word of mouth now that we get new people, so may as well unleash the hak'y goodness, and it does make things look a lot nicer

                          I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example

                          main: Rav (wiped)
                          (is not a Vampire. Proof?: does not sparkle)
                          No! Stop touching me! I am the night
                          "i have approximate knowledge of many thing"
                          retired: cilwa, eliane

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                            Zyla last edited by

                            If you dont have the haks though, many monsters will be invisible and not able to be targeted

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                            • Polaris
                              Polaris last edited by

                              You can log in without haks.

                              Once you have haks enabled on a PC, and we introduce a new hak, then that PC cannot be played until you download the new hak.

                              This is because we don't check for haks in "tiers". We just check if you have them or not. When you hit .sethak on, the haks no longer become "invisible", and you need to have them all before you can play.

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                                AbsoluteZero last edited by

                                @Selene:

                                gents I thought coa's pride was it's independency from haks, now you need haks to log in, sounds familiar to something we discussed earlier that shouldn't happen. Just wish to hear your thoughts on this.

                                ~S

                                You thought wrong.

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                                  Direfish last edited by

                                  Don't be rude now. He has a point. Before the great fall of server list hak-free servers were the king.

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                                  • Zolm
                                    Zolm last edited by

                                    log in with haks, good
                                    log in without haks, good
                                    log in with only partly having haks, not good.

                                    nothing else I was frusturated that my updater wasn't working so…. It is all working i=fine now

                                    Only CoA player whose Mom is cooler than he is.

                                    • Spiffyhas

                                    And damn right she is!

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                                    • DiaboSatan
                                      DiaboSatan last edited by

                                      Enjoy the new haks then, we've made some real nice stuff with them for you. Happy new year!

                                      City of Arabel biggest fan.

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                                        FinWolven last edited by

                                        Returned yesterday after literally a year between this and last time I played. Fresh reinstall of NWN, logged right into the server, no problems, no HAKs at that point.

                                        Then I came on the forums and found the autoupdater, installed that, got all the HAK content, works like a charm.

                                        Don't see the problem, really. Connecting to the server without the server lists is now complex enough that even a complete newbie without a referral (yeah, those happen, right?) is going to come here first to read up on at least where to find the server.

                                        Crash-Gremlins secret Boy-Toy, Tamer of the LagBeast

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