Thank you George!



  • So, I wake up and switch on youtube to find a new ANGRY JOE video.

    George has sold the rights to Star Wars to Disney for $4 billion (WTF? That's ALL the STAR WARS franchise is worth? Even PIXAR IP was worth more than that.)

    And yeah, this is old news to Americans, but I just got up, yo.

    Episode VII is in the works. Now, I'm not sure where they're going with it; Given that Post-Jedi is where most of the Expanded Universe takes place. They could either invalidate the EU (bad idea, since the EU is worth far more than the film franchise ever was. For the unaware, the EU or the expanded universe consists of all Star wars canon not in the films).

    Personally, I think a better direction would be to head over to KOTOR era, but what the hell, we're getting a new STAR WARS movie.

    So.

    1. You think they'll cast the old guys from the OT? (I fucking hope not. I don't want to see Mark Hamill on the screen. I DO NOT want to remember Luke as a decrepit old man)

    2. RECAST the OT cast? Might work, but those faces are more than iconic. Not sure how well the public would take it. But then, it worked for Star Trek…though there was a time gap, portraying younger versions of the classic, so that was different.

    3. All new cast. Best option in my opinion. Set it 100000 years in the future, away from any and all EU conflict and canon bullshit (EU is so huge and unwieldy, it's insane.) and focus on building a brand new storyline.

    AND NO MORE BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH FILMING.

    (Also, I hope the whole thing isn't an elaborate troll. I will just die. DIE.)



  • I think George wanted to see his brainchild end up in capable hands before he died and while he was in a position to make the decision. Disney, as crazy as it may sound, is a great choice. People worry about seeing Mickey Mouse with a lightsaber or some shit, but Avengers did just fine and honestly getting Star Wars out of George Lucas' hands can't be a bad decision. Granted, I liked the "prequel trilogy" far more than most people (honestly it wasn't that freakin' bad, and Revenge of the Sith was bad ass save for the NOOOOOO - but hey, it gave us funny stuff to play with online). Disney is capable of doing mature adult driven content all while even keeping a PG rating, so I'm not too beefed about it. If anything it ensures that Star Wars will live on. I HOPE they move on to at least some of the EU stuff (sure, there's mind-boggling amounts of canon, but there's always room to adapt new stories within the canon that just give little glimpses and tips-of-the-hat to the dire fans), but something tells me Episode VII might in the very least feature cameos (unless it's set in the very far future, but from reading sources online I believe George Lucas still wrote the story for VII-IX and that each trilogy takes place 20 years away from the next, so it's almost a cert that we'll get to see old Luke, old Leah, and old Han).

    To answer the questions:

    1. You think they'll cast the old guys from the OT? (I fucking hope not. I don't want to see Mark Hamill on the screen. I DO NOT want to remember Luke as a decrepit old man)

    I am thinking cameos are a cert, but that doesn't mean they have to be horrible. The actors have all aged naturally, there will be no need for heavy make-up. It might be very fitting and very natural, and very awesome, if done right. I personally would love to see an older Luke who has married, perhaps had children, and perhaps train them in the almost extinct ways of the Jedi.

    1. RECAST the OT cast? Might work, but those faces are more than iconic. Not sure how well the public would take it. But then, it worked for Star Trek…though there was a time gap, portraying younger versions of the classic, so that was different.

    I don't think they would even attempt it. CGI if anything natural isn't possible, but I think they know they'd be stoned to death by mobs of angry fans. I don't think it would work to compare the reactions of Star Trek fans to Star Wars fans. I am a big fan of both, but I have to say that I find Star Wars fans much more.. rabid and uncompromising than Star Trek fans. Whether that's due to maturity or just sheer love of the franchise, I do not know.

    1. All new cast. Best option in my opinion. Set it 100000 years in the future, away from any and all EU conflict and canon bullshit (EU is so huge and unwieldy, it's insane.) and focus on building a brand new storyline.

    I'm thinking Disney might follow along in Star Wars fashion and cast new faces, non-named/low-profile celebrities looking to build their careers. This, at least, I hope as much for. Sometimes a celebrity bringing too much star power can detract from the characters they're trying to play. Personally I believe there are certain celebrities that would rock out any film (Robert Downy Jr. and Denzel Washington, to name a few of my favorites) but I feel like Samual L. Jackson, for example, soiled the roll of Mace Windu because Samual L. Jackson can only play one character - Samual L. Jackson. I kept waiting for him to burst out against the Chancellor and say "You ain't usin' no motha fuckin' force shock on me, nerf herdin' sucka!!" Just didn't work for me. I know I may have felt similar if I knew who Billy Dee Williams was (he had some significant star power coming into Star Wars) when I was a young lad watching Star Wars for the first time, but I guess that worked out alright in the end.

    I'm excited, in the end. The franchise evolves, and yes, much to many dire fans' chagrin that means the winds of change are blowing, but change isn't always a bad thing, and change is necessary to survive. I've lived my entire life (28 years) growing up with Star Wars. There was always something new going on with Star Wars, be it a movie, a TV Show, a cartoon, a video game, a comic book, or a novel, Star Wars has lived and breathed along with me for my entire life and seeing it move on to Disney means one thing: It will survive and it will make money, and if it makes money, it will continue to survive. I want it to survive, much like I want Star Trek to survive. Even if there are busts in between, a gem comes along every now and then and makes it all good.

    Long Live Star Wars!



  • Incorporating some eu elements would work well. It has been done. Coruscant and kashyyk were both originally eu property.

    Havent always liked eu, stuff like the return of the sith just invalidates and makes vader pretty much pointless. It would have made sense if the prequels didnt come up with the whole destroy teh sith prophecy.

    Considering eu currently stands at about 130 years aftwr the ot, there might be scope there. But the skywalkers have their lives chronicled in excruciating detail. Going with them is going to clash. Which is fine with me, but i dont think disney will throw away a cash cow like the eu.



  • I personally want to see them do something either in or pre-KOTOR time. While some aspects of KOTOR I was a little miffed about (thermal detonators 4,000 years before Lando Calrissian threatened to nuke Jabba's palace, and they look the exact same? Fucking seriously?), I do admire the Old Republic setting and can see a real draw in expanding it some more, sans-SWTOR material. There are some logistical hurdles, sure, but "official rulings" can fix that, especially if done with the fans' opinion (something George of the Bungle never quite returned to at the end of this career).



  • No. The Skywalker story has been done. Between the movies and EU, the Skywalkers do not need another movie.

    What needs to happen is tell a story on one of the popular secondary characters of the trilogies. That's right. Boba Fett.

    There are many conflicting origin stories on Boba Fett in the EU, so a movie that finally clears those up would tell an excellent story.

    A child losing his father, owning Slave I, growing up to be a bounty hunter. Women, action, suspense and Jedi. It must happen.



  • BOBA FETT.



  • Dudes… The stories, the screen plays are already written. They have been for AGES. He wrote all nine, took 4-6 because he believed they would tell the best story, as he never thought he would have the funds to make all nine.

    Personally, i love that Disney has taken over. I am dying to have the story finished.



  • @Khamal:

    No. The Skywalker story has been done. Between the movies and EU, the Skywalkers do not need another movie.

    _"It's..It's…epic in scale, shakespearean in scope."

    "I've never seen such a movie..nay, never had such an experience."

    "The seven kingdoms at war.."

    Star Wars Episode VII
    A Song of Sky and Walker
    by
    George R.R. Lucas_



  • @Arkham:

    (thermal detonators 4,000 years before Lando Calrissian threatened to nuke Jabba's palace, and they look the exact same? Fucking seriously?)

    [NERD ALERT!]
    Sorry, but I can't let that slide - it was Leia, under the guise of Boushh, the bounty hunter, who made a threat with a thermal detonator, not Lando.
    [/NERD ALERT!]

    To the subject, wow, I don't think I've been this surprised since Marvel got sold (again, to Disney). I mean, Disney certainly doesn't have a bad track record when it comes to IPs (actually, their handling of Marvel has been fairly good), but it's still a bit jarring. Lucas had intended from the beginning to make Star Wars more of a serial thing where anyone else would jump in to do their chapter, but as time went on, it's clear he molded it (and again and again and again) into something more of a personal item. The whole direction he was going with a live-action series felt like he wasn't done and still had more to tell, albeit in the different, darker, seedy underbelly of the galaxy - but now with this sale, who knows?

    In the end, I think the property could be in worse hands, but we'll have to see what develops.



  • The "Acquisition (of LucasFilm LTD) continues Disney's strategic focus on creating and monetizing the world's best branded content, innovative technology and global growth to drive long-term shareholder value."

    Wow Disney- way to make the boring, tedious work of running amusement parks, making cartoons and owning Star-freaking-Wars and make it sound exciting. I mean brand maximization, 4-party licensing agreements and copyright law FTW. Your new focus should be "To take our warehouses filled with piles of money, skyscrapers filled with supercomputers and our multiple robotics laboratories to make the most awesome sh*t in the universe," not "monetizing branded content."

    If I was Caesar of Disney World I would have Indiana Jones fighting Fozzy Bear with lightsabers over the sarlac pit, or firing the "It's a Small World" ride into outer space as a warning to invading alien societies of just how f*cked up the human race is and what war crimes we're capable of. But hey, that's just me. Maybe we could have the Disney board of directors write the next Star Wars film, it would be like the one recent Star Wars movie where they stood around in various meetings. I think it was called "Natalie Portman in Kabuki makeup on CNN" or something.

    Here's some ideas for the next Star Wars movie:
    1. Lightsabers out. If you're discussing the trade alliances multi layered agreement on creating a sustainable robot industry on Naboo let's have some Jedi stabbing crap in background. I'm not sitting through an hour and a half of people discussing stuff that is actually more boring than my RL job to see Mace Window jack up 5 robots again.
    2. Actually - everybody gets a lightsaber this time. Turns out you don't need magic or enough multichlorine in your DNA to use one. So- lightsabers out and everyone gets one.
    3. Epic space battles. Space age go-kart racing and Jedi's in convertible cars are not the Millenium Falcon flying through 4000 tie fighters with a wookie screaming in the co-pilot's seat. I want to see those mega star destroyers crashing into the orphanage planet and crap.
    4. The plot- some guy is special, he's going to be a really good Jedi and there' some dudes in black who are going to try and stop him from killing them all. Maybe rehash some Kirosawa samurai film script and change samurai to Jedi. Let's just see RAN redone with, and let me say it again, light-freaking-sabers.

    I thought working at Disney would be cool when I was kid. Now I know, "Disney - where fun goes to d?i?e? ? be cryogenically frozen until it becomes really extremely profitable". I'd buy stock if you get to swim around in their giant vats of money ala Scrooge McDuck though.



  • @SOC_Tessa:

    @Arkham:

    (thermal detonators 4,000 years before Lando Calrissian threatened to nuke Jabba's palace, and they look the exact same? Fucking seriously?)

    [NERD ALERT!]
    Sorry, but I can't let that slide - it was Leia, under the guise of Boushh, the bounty hunter, who made a threat with a thermal detonator, not Lando.
    [/NERD ALERT!]

    My bad. It was late when I wrote this. You're right, of course!



  • People nerdgasm over Boba Fett way too much. The guy was a pussy, his father was a pussy, they both went out like the bitches that they were.

    Trust me, if you want Boba's true origin story, just watch Robot Chicken. They nailed it.





  • @Dr.Penguin:

    People nerdgasm over Boba Fett way too much. The guy was a pussy, his father was a pussy, they both went out like the bitches that they were.

    Boba Fett was way more cool to me when he was just a mysterious rogue who was nothing special in the grand scheme of the universe, but skilled at his trade. I didn't need to see him as a spunky kid - simply having only Jango appear without explaining any relation to Boba would have been markedly better.

    Then prequels came around and filled in far too many details that were better left untouched. My impressions of Boba Fett are somewhat similar to how Darth Vader was much more badass before they felt it necessary to show us his earlier 10 year old self. Seriously, I compare my pre-prequel thoughts of Vader to post-prequel Vader and they almost feel like two distinct characters. Hell, to cross into other media, I found Wolverine more appealing when he couldn't remember his origins. I also much prefer the "Question" story arcs of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni to the "Answer" ones (although I don't expect anyone to actually know the source material of this final point).

    There's something to be said about a storyteller who lays everything out completely and spells the plot out versus one who requires that the audience uses their imagination to fill in the gaps. What's that old rule of media, "Show, don't tell"?

    But, I digress.

    Interesting things I've read elsewhere on the web regarding this matter:

    1. Does this make Princess Leia a Disney Princess now?
    2. The next time we see a Star Wars movie in the theatre (2015 according to Disney), there isn't going to be a 20th Century Fox fanfare before the opening crawl…how strange is that gonna feel?

  • Storyteller [DM]

    SOC_Tessa, read up on Boba Fett in the extended universe. You'll love it. The guy just keeps coming back!

    Recast, new cast, old cast, I dont care, as long as it stays canon and is made awesome. Thrawn trilogy would rock. New Jedi Order stuff is cool. Yuuzhan Vong war, too much stuff in there I think for just 3 movies. Sith/Jedi war? Ending with Darth Bane getting all the siths killed to set up the Rule of Two… sooo much stuff.

    Pengy! Skywalker did go married and had 1 kid. I'll spare you the very long list of spoilers.



  • Don't worry guys, it's just the biggest trolling ever. Like god damn.

    And really Disney needed something. They haven't had any good movies since Lion King if we don't count Pirates of the Caribbean.



  • The new starwars film will be entitled. StarWars: JarJar Origins

    They also considered



  • If this will be a part 1 and part 2 the cinema's can kiss my boot.



  • @O'louth:

    Dudes… The stories, the screen plays are already written. They have been for AGES. He wrote all nine, took 4-6 because he believed they would tell the best story, as he never thought he would have the funds to make all nine.

    Personally, i love that Disney has taken over. I am dying to have the story finished.

    That's a myth Lucas continues to tell.

    He wrote Star Wars to be Star Wars, expecting no sequel. It exploded, and then he wrote the others.



  • @Forte:

    Don't worry guys, it's just the biggest trolling ever. Like god damn.

    And really Disney needed something. They haven't had any good movies since Lion King if we don't count Pirates of the Caribbean.

    Disney own Marvel I believe, hence Avengers Assemble and its coming milkage.


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