New computer advice needed! (Again, haha)


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    So, my darling husband spilled coke all over my laptop. It is currently drying off, turned it off straight after it got wet so damage should be minimal. But, I am preparing for the worst plus playing NwN on a laptop sucks!

    I am not after the most amazing gaming computer, but I want my new computer built from scratch. In general decent enough graphics to play newish games in 2nd best standard would be nice. Otherwise I only use the computer for surfing, NwN and photoshop. Any general suggestions for something decent to patch together to make a desktop computer? Knowing what you guys use will be just as nice 🙂

    My budget is no more than 8000kr*!

    *£677 or $984


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    Are you wanting another laptop, or a desktop?


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    Desktop!


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    Games I play cause apparently that is useful to know:

    Skyrim, Dragon Age Inquistion, Thief (New cursed edition of nerd hatred), Trine 1-3, Unepic, Unravel



  • i'll price you one up on amazon, i think they deliver to sweden. you'd just have to put it together yourself. But it's sort of like electronic lego and simple enough.


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    What I found from Forte's website

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $76.98 @ Newegg
    Motherboard ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $52.38 @ Newegg
    Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $29.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.89 @ OutletPC
    Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card $129.99 @ Newegg
    Case Enermax ECA3212-BL ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
    Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $34.99 @ NCIX US
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $430.21
    Mail-in rebates -$30.00
    Total $400.21
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-17 17:11 EDT-0400
    Augmentations

    Cases are subjective, you can look at any case you want, just make sure the video card and any aftermarket CPU cooler fits!
    Higher quality CPU cooler for quieter operation (Add ~$25-$30)
    Fast 120GB SSD to accompany existing hard drive (Add ~$50)
    Better performing video card like the R9 380 (Add ~$40)
    Better power supply (Add ~$15)



  • The website in question: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/builds

    PC Master Race is very well known for making economical builds that outperform modern consoles (typically used to demonstrate to console-only gamers how much more they gain from going PC).



  • Personally i'd go for a bit better processor. The X4 is quite low end.

    Something like this would be better in the long run

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8320E-3 ... +processor

    You'd also need a copy of Windows


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    The prices seem outdated, which might be good, considering. Some links to help you, Puffy:

    AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor is now 69.99

    for $395.96 you can get your tower (Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 w/ Window Side Panel ATX CASE), Processor (AMD A10-7860K w/ AMD Quiet Cooler Quad-Core Socket FM2+), motherboard (ASRock PRO3+ A88X mITX MOBO), memory (G.SKILL Ares 8GB DDR3 1600 MEM), and harddrive (Kingston 2.5" V300 120GB SSD)

    The videocard listed here is $139.99 with a $10 rebate

    Powersupply is at $45.70

    I came up with $651.64. But I might've missed something. I'm still on my 1st cup of coffee



  • PCMR's Crusher build (which she liked) is marked as last updated on May 20, which should be pretty relevant.



  • You forgot the Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics card.



  • Get a GTX 1080 and be the envy of the unwashed console peasents as you revel in the superiorty of the PC Master Race


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    Okay question, how much would this cost me to get shipped to Sweden?


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    Put it all in a cart and have it calculate shipping for you.



  • Spring for an i5 or i3 if you can, even if you have to get a worse video card. It'll serve you better in the long-run, as there is a noticeable performance difference between intel CPUs and AMD ones atm.



  • Hi puffy! Giving my two cents. If you're building or buying and don't need the computer immediately, I'd HIGHLY recommend waiting until the Fourth of July and buying then. Fry's always has a sale then, and I believe Newegg has one as well. Probably your cheapest route.

    If not, I'll also do some hunting and see if I can't find some good options or deals.

    As for building it on your own, if you haven't before, I'd highly recommend doing it with someone who has. Make sure to touch grounded metal before touching any parts (like metal light switch faceplates). I'd also recommend getting parts from a local store if you're doing it that way, since you could just go get a replacement if the part doesn't work. Faster that way.
    Advantage for building is it saves some money.

    For the AMD vs. Intel debate, its really up to your preference and how much money you want to spend. Intel is a bit better, and has better threading (used for running a bunch of tasks at once, helps bounce info between the cpu cores and stuff), but is a lot more pricey.

    Some tips of mine for deciding on parts: having a good motherboard is VERY important; if you go intel i'd recommend getting an ASUS one. The better ones will tend to break less and be better for cooling. You never need more than 8 gigs of ram unless you are doing some serious design work. Make sure your power supply is good enough to handle your computer load, these days I wouldn't get recommend getting anything below 600/650W (not much of a price difference either. Much better to spend the little extra bit). When deciding on a case, unless you're all about looks, there's two factors I personally look at: what's on sale and what looks like it has the best ventilation. Lots of holes, the better.
    You might also consider getting a small (32-64GB) SSD, or solid-state drive, and installing the OS on it. Should speed up booting time by a significant amount as well as normal OS processes.
    Liquid cooling is overrated. Buy an extra case fan or two. They go a long way. Also make sure the CPU you're buying has a CPU fan with it. They're necessary to even start the PC, and some don't come with it if you're building it yourself. As for getting a non-stock one, it'll be less noisy usually. Though recently the stock cpu fans aren't terrible. Maybe just get a new one later on (you can simply change it out, though make sure it matches the motherboard).
    Most decent graphics cards have 2gb DDR5 these days. I'd get something along those lines, higher if you can.
    RAM is always fairly cheap, higher the numbers the better speed-wise.

    If I think of anything else I'll post it, or pm me or hit me up on IRC or whatevs


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    Check this site too

    http://www.logicalincrements.com/



  • You mentioned Photoshop. Do you use Lightroom for cataloging things?
    If so, definitely go for that smallish SSD for the OS and put the lightroom database on it also.
    And I second whats been said about getting a i5.
    my desktop is i5-2500 (3.3ghz) /120GBSSD/2TBHD/16GBRAM/Radeon HD7800 2GB and it runs anything I've wanted, including new games.
    (except for some work-related items that need insane amounts of RAM)
    I paid $400 US for it used a year ago, when it was a year old. I expect similar specs should easily fit in your budget now as New.


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