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    • AronFF
      AronFF last edited by

      I've never taken metamagic feats before but now I'm considering one as something like this would suit my char (just as any wizard I guess). Any suggestions on it? Both mechanical suggestion and possible RPing considerations interest me.

      And, one specific question, if I take still spell, can I cast the spells prepared with it while held/stunned/ect?
      (I don't know what's the difference between the several disabling effects.)

      thanks in andvance

      If some poor English shows up in this post: and you're an English teacher, language-patriot or simply kind; please correct me. Thanks.

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        TheJaggedSoul last edited by

        @AronFF:

        And, one specific question, if I take still spell, can I cast the spells prepared with it while held/stunned/ect?
        (I don't know what's the difference between the several disabling effects.)

        No.

        Character:

        John De'Notrevá: "Through honor, loyalty. Through loyalty, unity. Through unity, strength!"

        A wise man once said: "Less OOC QQ, More IC Pew Pew"

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          OverUsedChewToy last edited by

          Roleplay:
          Meta-magic has a few roleplay purposes I guess. Empowering spells can be an impressive act of intimidation, for instance. You can also sell extended or empowered spells as a kind of business (So long as you don't give spells that defeat any challenge on any quests!), or give them away to form IC alliances/friendships/etc. I recall using empowered bulls strength as a bargaining chip in a fun little bit of RP once.

          Mechanically:
          Awesome (All of these spells shift spells up one tier, so you can have more of the same spell when you need it, e.g. you can cast bulls strength from tier 2 and extended bulls from tier 3):
          -Extend Spell (Oh yes double duration for any spell that is longer than instant-effect.
          -Still Spell (For use in armor!)
          -Silent Spell (For those rare times someone will actually use silence)

          Useful:
          -Empower Spell (Once you hit level 5 or 6, these let you basically cast more level 3+ spells, effectively. Great for versatility)

          Not-so-useful (You're just not going to hit high enough levels usually to see much use from them):
          -Quicken Spell
          -Maximize Spell

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            Hinty last edited by

            Don't forget the Spell Focus, feats, they are metamagic aswell. ;)

            Warning: May contain traces of Sarcasm.

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              Foba 83 last edited by

              Since when?

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              Azzmodan: "Otherwise it's a failed escape attempt."

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              • Mr.Moloch
                Mr.Moloch last edited by

                Since never.

                In the future, there are two simple rules to remember:

                NO SPITTING.

                DO NOT CROSS MISTER MOLOCH.

                https://youtu.be/WsMMN9Y9uEw

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                  Hinty last edited by

                  wait what? are they not? I coulda sworn they counted…

                  Bin away too long.

                  Warning: May contain traces of Sarcasm.

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                    ButteryCroissant last edited by

                    @Hinty:

                    wait what? are they not? I coulda sworn they counted…

                    They're on the Wizard Bonus Feat list that wizards can choose from every 5th level, but they're not metamagic. :)

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                      Alice shadowhand last edited by

                      Once was a victum of silent blindness/deafness in the back, my character never did figure out IC who shot it at him!

                      Nice rp tool if used right :D

                      On a more mechanical note, metamagic feat in genreal are a good way to make sorcerers more usefull. For example a sorcerer with merf acid arrow could use it as a 4th level spell with empower…. good if he took the sometimes useless confustion as he hit 8.

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                        Velve last edited by

                        Still spell is fun to RP, unfortunately the character still does the hand wiggling action, so I just RP my character's voice (When he could speak anyway) booming out with greater intensity, as he for example simply raised a hand to throw magic missiles at an enemy, while wearing fullplate armour. :D

                        Extend spell is simply damn useful, and makes you seem a far more compitent make. Your buffs last double as long as standard ones!

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                        • karandil
                          karandil last edited by

                          It always had seemed to me that the added power of the metamagic enhancement did in no way offset losing one slot of higher levels, except maybe for lower level slots at high level, or when you know in advance you will need that enhanced spell.
                          On the other hands, sorcerers would be prime users of those feats, with their larger numbers of slots and without the extra penalty of full-round casting they have in PnP.

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                            Relonor last edited by

                            Sorcerers definitely get the best out of metamagic feats, mainly because they can apply it to spells on the fly, instead of needing to prepare them.

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                            • Cadiz
                              Cadiz last edited by

                              being able to buff stats for 16 hours at a stretch at 8th level is awesome and should last even dm event with luck!

                              Zool's rule - don't be a dick.

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                              • Forte
                                Forte last edited by

                                @Alice:

                                Once was a victum of silent blindness/deafness in the back, my character never did figure out IC who shot it at him!

                                Nice rp tool if used right :D

                                Wasn't that my handiwork?

                                @Pyth:

                                > I had to actually stop the movie, and check to see if I had been hit with an old school unholy trinity

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                                  Alice shadowhand last edited by

                                  @Forte:

                                  @Alice:

                                  Once was a victum of silent blindness/deafness in the back, my character never did figure out IC who shot it at him!

                                  Nice rp tool if used right :D

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                                  • Lamancha
                                    Lamancha last edited by

                                    @cadiz_stoker:

                                    being able to buff stats for 16 hours at a stretch at 8th level is awesome and should last even dm event with luck!

                                    Last night finished a five hour stretch with ParaciticNematode. No way Extended bulls will last that long!

                                    Lamancha

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